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As I am preparing to order my Rubicon 4Xe I was wondering what everybody's thoughts were in regard to the 4Xe holding its value. One of the best things about jeeps is their ability to hold their value. I am trading in a 2018 JLUR and my trade 3 yrs later with 43K miles is only 7K less than I paid for it brand new. I haven't been able to find any official residual values listed anywhere. Does the hybrid technology help or hurt the residual value or is it a non factor?
 

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Seems like a bit of an unknown. I’ve decided that I’m just going to drive it and enjoy it. I plan on this being a 10 to 15 year vehicle so I’m not terribly focused on resale.
 

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Welcome @Tbull52.

Like @Wrangler4XEFan, I think its tough to say.

BUT my guess is that there will be uncertainty around the 4xe initially and that should negatively impact its value. Over time that will change as people warm up to it and as charging infrastructure grows. The only thing that could impact that is if Jeep or one of its suppliers messed up something in a big way.
 

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The issue is no one knows how long the batteries will last, even Jeep at this point. We can expect about a 30% degradation in usable power over some period of time (usually 6-8 years of normal use), the warranty will generally be a good indicator of what to expect. Degradation is a lithium ion battery is normal and from what Tesla has learned thus far, the battery degrades about 30% and then levels off and stays there. As long as you don't get chemistry changes around the anodes, the battery may go for many years.

My Volt degraded about 30% but because GM over built the battery (16kWh with 10kWh usable) I never noticed it in lost range. The 4xE battery is fully usable (except for about 15%) so the degradation will be more noticable. The secret to long battery life is to never discharge it all the way and manage the heat effectively. Jeep says they have over a million and a half miles on the drive train so they are still learning too.

The battery is probably a $2500-3500 item right now (assuming $157 / kwh plus packaging) and if a good rebuild market develops it should be cheaper than that out a few years. Those of us (including me) hoped that a rebuild market would develop for the Volt, but it didn't. A GM rebuild is around $6000 without install and chemistry issues are starting to show up in generation 1 Volt's.

It's going to impact resale value, it's just nobody knows how much yet. A lot depends on how healthy a market for BEV and PHEV's really becomes.
 

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Don’t even worry about it. They will maintain their value. Hybrid-electric is just taking off right now. In 5 yrs they might make a battery the same size but twice as powerful.
 

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I am with TBull52, curious on resale, in the sense that I may want to trade up in a few years to the Magneto if it comes out (Just something about a standard electric Jeep). Though, if I remember correctly, the other impact is the 7,500 federal tax rebate. Since people got money back, the resale also took the same hit. At lease that is what I saw when I was shopping for my Volt. It may not impact Jeeps
 

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Consumer reports did not give the Jeep great ratings, but they still hold their value. I'm guessing if folks get better gas mileage with the hybrid there will be a good market. Unfortunately my gas mileage has not been good (16-17 mpg).
 

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One thing about the 4XE is that while it's a new product, it's not a new concept. PHEVs have been around for a while. Some people fully understand PHEVs and have been driving them for years and some people still have no idea what a PHEV is. There's the adoption curve. Just recently had a conversation with a friend of my son who bought a Cmax Energi and had no idea why they would need to plug it in. There will people that will still receive the 4XE as a "new" technology in 5 years and maybe beyond.
 

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John G - I had a Volt as well and leased it, just like I leased my 4XE. That way if I don't like it or it tanks in value, it's not a huge deal. Ironically, my 4XE lease is cheaper then my Volt was! I've been dying for a AWD PHEV with off roading capability and 8 years later... finally here... I do have a Tesla as well...

FWIW - as you are aware, the $45k MSRP Volt at least end was worth about $12k trade-in and if I bought it at least end it was $22k. Obviously it went back to Ally. It's possible the Jeep could do something similar, but no one knows just yet. Part of it depends on what else is out there, what else has the capability, and how reliable they are. One would hope that Jeep put in a robust battery management system as Nissan learned, a weak one leads to fast battery degradation.
 

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The lease residuals on Wranglers are insane. They just retain so much value, even more so with the more entry/mid-level models, and while the 4xe is new, it definitely benefited from the "Jeep thing" :D

Our lease on the 4xe is ~$150 less than the DD/RT it replaces and it has an MSRP that's ~$5K higher. Obviously the $7500 tax credit right up front was a factor, but the RV being like 12-13% higher was also a major impact (on the downside, the rates on Jeeps are much higher, so we dropped more up front than we'd normally do with a lease to offset that a bit).

Side note: we got offers for almost $8000 more than the buyout of the DD/RT, so we bought it, and turned that around and had enough to cover the up front through the first year of the 4xe (and a few bucks left for a couple of beers :D )
 
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