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does your experience generally align with this?

Cold Weather Operation of the Wrangler 4xe

Remote start and regular button start will both work, with an EVSE plugged in. That’s a great way to warm the battery and the cabin using energy from the wall. The Jeep will not shift out of Park until you remove the charge handle, to prevent accidentally driving off while plugged in. The plug icon in the cluster gives you a heads up.

You might see Fuel/Oil Refresh more frequently in cold weather. That’s because short engine runtimes in cold temperatures are most conducive to fuel dilution into the engine oil. If this happens, the solution is to get the engine warm and keep it running for up to an hour and a half to evaporate the fuel out of the oil… or change the engine oil.

Here’s what to expect as mornings get colder. All of this logic is true, whether an EVSE is plugged in or not:

Above ~32°F, and with sufficient battery and fuel, the vehicle will usually power up silently (ICE not running). The exception is if you have a very high HVAC demand.

Below 32°F but above 10°F, the ICE engine will also run at startup. You can select Electric mode to shut it off, relying instead on the electric heaters. There will be a range penalty. If you use remote start in a cold garage, take note exhaust will be emitted.

Below 10°F, the engine will always run until various systems are up to operating temperature. Electric mode will be unavailable during warmup. At these temperatures, the electric heater really isn’t an efficient way to heat the cabin, and your EV range would be greatly reduced by that anyway. The same is true of BEV’s, but they don’t have an ICE to help.

If it’s below ~5°F outside when you shut down, the instrument cluster will advise you to plug in an EVSE to maintain battery temperature. This is only strictly necessary in case the battery temp falls below -20°F overnight. Level 1 or Level 2 are suitable.

All the way down to -20°F, the Jeep can start unassisted (without an EVSE connected). This is the same capability as other Wranglers and most ICE vehicles.

If outside temperature is likely to fall below -20°F, you definitely want to connect an EVSE overnight. The Jeep will wake up periodically and warm and circulate coolant to facilitate a restart. It’s not necessary to also connect a block heater.

With an EVSE connected, the Jeep can start as low as -40°F. This is the same performance a other Wranglers and the best production ICE vehicles - they require block heaters in these temperatures.
We live in Santa Barbara. This never happened last winter and nothing has changed. As well, it's always run with A/C on in hybrid mode at the very least. Now upon starting it gives me the same error message no matter what temp. My jeep dealer can't take my car for 3 weeks. I have a feeling I will need to tell them how to fix it and so thankful for this forum!
 

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I live in Italy, same issue in the same period of the year….. I recovered the car at the dealership to fix it, they patched the software with an update under the Stellantis support team…it seemed it worked last week, but i think the issue is not solved at all, I mean the car doesn’t work anymore as before. The reason is that to avoid the oil starts to degradate too much due to diluition too high with the fuel, the algorithm in the software forces the car to use the fuel for at less half an hour or more continuously…this didn’t happened before. There is a specific table with the dilution % and degradation that inspired this update in the software, gived to me by the dealership to justify the update….Am I sactisfied? Not at all
Hi, there are at least two Wrangler 4xE at my dealership broken since december.
They replaced ECH on both and still don't work. Now they'll try to replace other components of the battery cooler but there are no spare parts avalable. WTF

Ciao, ci sono almeno due Wrangler 4xE dal mio concessionario ferme da un mese.
Hanno sostituito l'ECH ad entrambe e non funzionano ancora.
Adesso proveranno a cambiare altri componenti del raffreddamento batterie, ma non sono disponibili. Non sanno quando arrivano i pezzi. Andiamo bene...
 

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Ok, I spoke with repair manager.
He told me that "headquarter" instructed them to try replacing only ECH's pump. It did not work and wasted a month. Now they don't know when the full EHC will arrive. Maybe 1 week maybe 1 month. Today they have 3 Wranglers broken with same problem after attempting the same wrong solution. F**K Stellantis!
 

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I did notice the power on electric mode was starting not as responsive as normal before the “electric mode currently unavailable” message popped up. Then the gas engine turned on and flipped to hybrid mode… any thoughts from the group? It was a bit hotter outside than previous days
Had this happen today. Not a great feeling while passing on the highway! Any answers?
 

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Had this happen today. Not a great feeling while passing on the highway! Any answers?
If you're in electric, at high speed on the highway and trying to pass, you may simply be demanding too much load and it needs the engine on. With prolonged high speed running in electric, you can also overheat the motors, so it'll bring the engine on to cool.
 

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If you're in electric, at high speed on the highway and trying to pass, you may simply be demanding too much load and it needs the engine on. With prolonged high speed running in electric, you can also overheat the motors, so it'll bring the engine on to cool.
I was in hybrid. And have made the same journey many times - that's mostly why it freaked me out a little! But will see if I can notice conditions if it happens again. Thanks!
 

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I was in hybrid. And have made the same journey many times - that's mostly why it freaked me out a little! But will see if I can notice conditions if it happens again. Thanks!
Sounds like the motors overheating. I'd start by checking your coolant levels to make sure you're not low on coolant. Particularly the low temp and battery coolant loops. I'd be less worried about the engine coolant loop.
 

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Hi, there are at least two Wrangler 4xE at my dealership broken since december.
They replaced ECH on both and still don't work. Now they'll try to replace other components of the battery cooler but there are no spare parts avalable. WTF

Ciao, ci sono almeno due Wrangler 4xE dal mio concessionario ferme da un mese.
Hanno sostituito l'ECH ad entrambe e non funzionano ancora.
Adesso proveranno a cambiare altri componenti del raffreddamento batterie, ma non sono disponibili. Non sanno quando arrivano i pezzi. Andiamo bene...
Penso che siamo messi molto molto molto male
 

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Battery coolant heater.
Hi Mllcb42, my dealer in Italy is set to fix the BCH , which is revealed by the diagnostic procedure as not working properl. It seems that the last update of the software in December 2022 has sharpen the parameters of this component, finding it as defective. Mine it’s a June 21 produced vehicle, so It could be an original sinn….in fact until september 2022 it has been an eden with the car….than…..a hell….
 

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It seems that the last update of the software in December 2022 has sharpen the parameters of this component, finding it as defective
The latest software updates now throw code p0e15 for a locked out ECH. They do not do so for a BCH. The naming conventions that jeep uses can be a little misleading. Hopefully your dealer is replacing the ECH and not the BCH. There have been some people that have had issues with a dealer replacing the BCH in an attempt to repair what is actually a locked out ECH. Not surprisingly, replacing the wrong part doesn't actually fix the issue.
 

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Well, I have 35 years of software development / IT experience and I am 100% sure it is a software bug. The car starts in electric mode, switches to hybrid (e.g. when accelerating fast) and then claims that "electric mode is temporarily unavailable" when trying to switch to "electric only" (batteries are fully charged...). Turning the car off and restarting it, allows the electric only mode again. In my books, the most pathetic QA I have seen in quite a while.
 

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Well, I have 35 years of software development / IT experience and I am 100% sure it is a software bug. The car starts in electric mode, switches to hybrid (e.g. when accelerating fast) and then claims that "electric mode is temporarily unavailable" when trying to switch to "electric only" (batteries are fully charged...). Turning the car off and restarting it, allows the electric only mode again. In my books, the most pathetic QA I have seen in quite a while.
Bonjour
Je suis de Belgique 🇧🇪 en Europe avec une Jeep Compass 4xe et celle-ci est bloquée au garage depuis 1 mois car cela vient du nouveau logiciel qui bug
Ils me disent que cela peut duré encore plusieurs semaines le temps qu’il trouve le bug et de refaire un nouveau logiciel
C’est ma troisième et dernière jeep pour 58000€ c’est incroyable de chez Jeep
 

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Well, i just received back my 4xE! They changed ECH and now it works well. Moreover they Inspected and Updated PIM and TCM Software (18ZB7184 Safety Recall ZB7 - Loss of Motive Power). It accelerates much harder than before. A beast. The electrical noise is also different.
 

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Well, i just received back my 4xE! They changed ECH and now it works well. Moreover they Inspected and Updated PIM and TCM Software (18ZB7184 Safety Recall ZB7 - Loss of Motive Power). It accelerates much harder than before. A beast. The electrical noise is also different.
THANK YOU!!! Do you have the screeching sound when in regenerative braking made occassionally too?
 
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