Out of curiosity, was your goal to charge it or to just run in Esave maintain?
If your running it in Esave charge, you're burning more fuel.
Check your Esave settings in your hybrid settings.
First trip more than a short ways, very pleased.
Wife and I were bored today so we decided to go for a ride.
Left Toledo with about 84% battery. Headed to a historical area about 124 miles south.
The battery ran out after about 25 miles. I switched it to E-save mode and by the time we got to our destination the battery was back to 70%.
We continued southwest into Indiana and kept it in E-save until we headed home.
It topped out at about 85%. Wouldn't go higher than that.
All told we've put around 800 miles in our first month. I've put $43 worth of gas in it and it's still almost full.
It rides like a dream.
Color me very pleased.
Left Toledo with about 84% battery. Headed to a historical area about 124 miles south.
The battery ran out after about 25 miles. I switched it to E-save mode and by the time we got to our destination the battery was back to 70%.
We continued southwest into Indiana and kept it in E-save until we headed home.
It topped out at about 85%. Wouldn't go higher than that.
All told we've put around 800 miles in our first month. I've put $43 worth of gas in it and it's still almost full.
It rides like a dream.
Color me very pleased.
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If your running it in Esave charge, you're burning more fuel.
Check your Esave settings in your hybrid settings.
Charging the battery using the engine is the least efficient way to drive a 4xe. eSave should be set to maintain battery level, not charge.
Is there any actual data on that as far as how much fuel it takes to fully charge the battery?Charging the battery using the engine is the least efficient way to drive a 4xe. eSave should be set to maintain battery level, not charge.
Someone over on the FB group did a few runs using various setups in esave and just running in hybrid from 0% and one of the runs did a Esave Charge run and it popped up with a few MPG less than just Esave Maintain.Is there any actual data on that as far as how much fuel it takes to fully charge the battery?
One User, one set of data. Take it or leave it, but it makes sense. If there is a little more load added to the engine (IE spinning up the front E-motor to add electrons to the battery) there will be a hit on the MPG. Similar to the old school cars of taking an MPG hit when cranking the AC during the summer.
Yeah was just curious to compare how much it costs to have the ICE charge up the battery compared to charging it at home. Maybe in some of the high Kwh energy price areas it would be close to a wash? Or the ICE charger is WAY less efficient so it's not even close? I have no idea.Someone over on the FB group did a few runs using various setups in esave and just running in hybrid from 0% and one of the runs did a Esave Charge run and it popped up with a few MPG less than just Esave Maintain.
One User, one set of data. Take it or leave it, but it makes sense. If there is a little more load added to the engine (IE spinning up the front E-motor to add electrons to the battery) there will be a hit on the MPG. Similar to the old school cars of taking an MPG hit when cranking the AC during the summer.
E-save charge also behaves differently city stop and go traffic vs highway, on the highway it almost does not charge much it seems, city stop and go it tends to charge much more.
I only use e-save charge because I dislike the "Start/Stop" of the gas engine.
I only use e-save charge because I dislike the "Start/Stop" of the gas engine.
Another thought is how much it would cost at a charging station per kwh/time vs. additional gas use.Yeah was just curious to compare how much it costs to have the ICE charge up the battery compared to charging it at home. Maybe in some of the high Kwh energy price areas it would be close to a wash? Or the ICE charger is WAY less efficient so it's not even close? I have no idea.
I guess the real point is we don't have to charge to make a trip.
A gallon of gasoline has ~33.4 kWhs of energy (or thereabout), the best ICE engines are ~40% efficient. At best ~13.4 kWhs of that is movement/accessories. The rest is waste heat, unless it is cold.Yeah was just curious to compare how much it costs to have the ICE charge up the battery compared to charging it at home. Maybe in some of the high Kwh energy price areas it would be close to a wash? Or the ICE charger is WAY less efficient so it's not even close? I have no idea.
The national average of gas is $3.54/gal, in the best case that's about $0.26 cents a usable kWh. But there will be further losses converting to electricity/charging the battery.
(of course all that is dependent on my reading/understanding).
This is exactly why I chose this vehicle. If the rapid charging was more built out in my region or the ranges were longer, we would have 2 EVs in the garage. Today there are places I cannot go with any EV and and the non-Tesla charging times are reliability aren't up to my preferences. But all of my routine trips are covered by the range in the 4xe battery.I guess the real point is we don't have to charge to make a trip.
That‘s because a good portion of the charging comes from regenerative braking. More braking = more charging.E-save charge also behaves differently city stop and go traffic vs highway, on the highway it almost does not charge much it seems, city stop and go it tends to charge much more.
Because of this, I'm looking forward to our next trip to the Smoky Mountains.That‘s because a good portion of the charging comes from regenerative braking. More braking = more charging.
It's our favorite vacation place.
It should charge a ton when you get to the midway point between Gatlinburg and Cherokee, Newfound Gap it's all downhill to Cherokee.
Back around 2005 when I owned a Chrysler Crossfire, I could put the 6 speed manual in third and never need the brakes all the way down.
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