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Ok so just to be clear you joined the 4xe forums just to troll and talk shit? Not downing you for it but just trying to distill your reason for being here down to its base element.
I assume you’re taking about Jake22, I can’t see it because I used the ignore button. I suggest you do as well.
 
I assume you’re taking about Jake22, I can’t see it because I used the ignore button. I suggest you do as well.
Yeah I just ignored the Canadian troll baby. Weird how some people need to just be angry at others for enjoying a thing that they don't enjoy. Meanwhile he flexed on me with a pic of his v6 plain white GC with road tires :LOL:
 
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Better aero, a fixed roof, and independent suspension are the obvious big ones. I wonder how well it will sell compared to other cushy PHEV SUVs, unlike the Wrangler there are quite a few choices in that segment.
Also, the 2019 TH we traded had the "Aero" setting for the air suspension to lower the vehicle while cruising to help mpg's.
Maybe this is included with the GC 4xe to achieve the extra range? :unsure:
 
Also, the 2019 TH we traded had the "Aero" setting for the air suspension to lower the vehicle while cruising to help mpg's.
Maybe this is included with the GC 4xe to achieve the extra range? :unsure:
I had a WK2 with quadralift, the fuel savings from the "Aero" setting at higher speeds would be almost nothing. The fact the GC 4xe isn't a brick will slightly help its mileage compared to a 4xe
 
4xe's & Pacifica Hybrid are overpiced/overweight pigs with pathetic electric range...built strictly to lower Corporate Average Fuel Economy. Get on the Stellantis PHEV bandwagon if it makes ya feel good...waste your cash on obsolete technology.
Maybe overpriced and piggish to you, but I mean all on 64L of fuel and less than 100$ of electricity...... tell me what's more fuel efficient, as fast and as capable..i can wait.....

 
I assume you’re taking about Jake22, I can’t see it because I used the ignore button. I suggest you do as well.
Honestly... This is what I needed to see in another thread to go ahead and ignkre the Canadian troll. I wasn't sure if you were joking before but then I saw the type of posts... Yep... Easy user to ignore.
 
I had a WK2 with quadralift, the fuel savings from the "Aero" setting at higher speeds would be almost nothing. The fact the GC 4xe isn't a brick will slightly help its mileage compared to a 4xe
Normal Ride Height vs. Aero might not be much but it is quantifiable on my Jeep, somewhere around 1.7 mpg. There are other benefits to the air suspension (aside from off-road use) like controlling squatting and increasing the towing capacity. What really makes the difference is the aero drag coefficient which for a Wrangler is considerably worse:
Wrangler JL Cd = 0.454
Grand Cherokee 2021 Cd = 0.37
 
When cruising at 125 mph on a German highway on the legs where there are no speed limits, the aero ride makes a lot of sense regarding vehicle stability ....
 
When cruising at 125 mph on a German highway on the legs where there are no speed limits, the aero ride makes a lot of sense regarding vehicle stability ....
The quadralift air suspension on WK2s was not designed for high speed stability......it was kind of the opposite, floated like a cloud and handling and high speeds sucked, because of all the body roll. The ride comfort was amazing but it did not inspire confidence at high speeds, that was never it's purpose
 
Maybe our EU models have a different suspension tuning, but I have never found any body roll or instability at high speed .... contrary to my past and actual Wrangler's ...
 
I’ve seen a few points discussing owning Grand Cherokee’s versus the Wrangler 4xe. I own a 2013 GC Overland - saddle brown leather interior, all the features, only 82K miles. It’s been great. Of course for months and months I’ve wanted a Wrangler and after test driving a couple 4xE’s in recent weeks and doing more and more research, living here in Indianapolis with a short daily commute, I’m pretty sure this is the route I want to go with resale still high for my GC, tax credits for the 4xe + a Chrysler family discount I can use. But, I’m still kind of stuck on how nice my 2013 GC Overland is. For someone who has gotten more used to the luxury and quieter feel of the GC, what else should I consider as I think about the Wrangler 4xe? I‘m looking at the High Altitude and would plan to add a bit larger A/T tire and maybe a few other things, but know it’s a Wrangler and wouldn’t feel like a GC. Just kind of torn! Unless I should stop thinking about it!
Maybe an unpopular opinion here but I moved from a BMW PHEV- the problem for me is commitment and wandering eyes. There are so many options. In my Wrangler 4xe, I don't compare it to every other car. The only true competitor is a Bronco and PHEV isn't an option...plus I, personally, hate the interior. I'm also not one who sees Jeep as a "luxury brand," yet. The dealership experience is too subpar- great folks but I have to pay for anything besides water out of a cooler plus no big screen tv and leather club chairs....GC 4xe is awesome looking and, more practical but my Wrangler keeps me engaged and loyal.
 
Maybe an unpopular opinion here but I moved from a BMW PHEV- the problem for me is commitment and wandering eyes. There are so many options. In my Wrangler 4xe, I don't compare it to every other car. The only true competitor is a Bronco and PHEV isn't an option...plus I, personally, hate the interior. I'm also not one who sees Jeep as a "luxury brand," yet. The dealership experience is too subpar- great folks but I have to pay for anything besides water out of a cooler plus no big screen tv and leather club chairs....GC 4xe is awesome looking and, more practical but my Wrangler keeps me engaged and loyal.
Sounds like the dealership you use is subpar. That’s not the experience at the dealership I use.
 
Hi All, am new to this forum but thought I joint since we signed our papers to buy a GC 4xe overland last weekend and pick it up tomorrow. I am a long time EV owner and have also owned several hybrids. Really like what Jeep has done with their PHEVs and think they stand out from the pack when compared to BMW and Volvo who make somewhat comparable vehicles to the GC. In theory their is a Range Rover PHEV but that is 50% more expensive and appears to have been discontinued right after launch. Reading through this thread I did want to address a couple points, while the Wrangler in general is different from other SUVs and more so with its 4XE offering my understanding is that this may be short lived as Ford is doing some electrification of the Bronco in the near future. That said the Wrangler 4XE is great. The GC 4XE is pretty different from the other electrified SUVs on the market which is one of the reasons we bought it. The tech package, features and functionality in the GC 4XE really stand out and there are only about three other PHEV SUVs that even remotely compare to it, but all are much much more expensive and not nearly as functional.

On the fully electrified SUV side most SUVs are much smaller with the exception being the Model X (which I own) and the Rivian (which is impossible to buy). My challenge with the Model X is that it is a little to fancy which limits its functionality as an SUV (i.e. no roof rack, and limited tongue weight allowed on the trailer hitch). So Model X is great as long as you do not need to do anything really SUV like with it lol. Have a friend with the new Rivian SUV and it is pretty fantastic and definitely the future. Unfortunately the wait for those is likely two years and in winter or when fully loaded it will have reduced range. You also pay a big premium for both of these EVs.

So not only is the GC 4XE a great car, because it was delayed in market for so long, many dealerships have had their original customers cancel their orders and there is suddenly lots of inventory. More importantly Jeep is giving customer cash to accelerate sales. Our dealership sold us ours at MSRP but we had an additional $4K in customer cash that Jeep sent us so actually got it for $4K below MSRP plus we also get a $7500 tax credit which brings our cost to over $11K below MSRP. Add to that top $$ on our trade in and suddenly the GC4XE became an incredibly affordable choice for us, much more so than what it would have cost to buy a comparable ICE version of the GC. I think as we move towards the end of the year and interest rates continue to go up you will find even better deals on these as my sense is that their late arrival is going to create an end o year glut in dealership inventories. So if you were thinking about buying one now may be the time to do so since inventories are there along with incentives and tax rebates (FYI the tax rebate goes away for good at the end of December).
 
The challenge with the new incentives is that there are a lot of limits both in terms of vehicle price and personal income, so not clear how much if any rebate will be available for 4XEs especially if you are buying a more expensive one of have an income about $150K. Current incentive does not have those limits and for us we would not qualify under the new requirements so was important that we buy now vs. next year.
 
The challenge with the new incentives is that there are a lot of limits both in terms of vehicle price and personal income, so not clear how much if any rebate will be available for 4XEs especially if you are buying a more expensive one of have an income about $150K. Current incentive does not have those limits and for us we would not qualify under the new requirements so was important that we buy now vs. next year.
As I said... It goes away as we know it, but there is still something coming in its place.
 
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