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Paul92688

Discussion Starter · 12 d ago

I agree with a moving, potentially silent car making a noise to warn pedestrians. No problem. What I can't stand is the noise my JGC makes when doing this. The chosen noise sounds like brakes dragging or some mechanical failure.

Are you OK with the concept of a noisemaker?

Are you fond of the sound they chose?

Years ago I found a (probably fake) video of an electric car that made the Jetson's vehicle sound at low speed. The sound modified in rate as the car sped up and slowed down. In spite of being clownish, I would pick THAT over the dragging brake shoe sound we are stuck with.

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Sprinter69

· #21 · 10 d ago

Mllcb42 said:
Some people are concerned about the potential gross negligence lawsuit should a pedestrian walk out in front of you and you intentionally disabled the safety mechanism for alerting pedestrians.

Yes of course, but that's the argument for simply not disabling it. What I'm questioning is if you ARE going to disable it, trying to do it in a way that is not detectable by the dealership, what's the point of that? The dealership could care less if you've disabled your pedestrian warning. And if you actually ran over a pedestrian because you had it off, it's too late to "undo" whatever you did to disable it, so again what's the point of jumping through a bunch of hoops to disable it rather than just pulling the fuse? Wrangler owners have been yanking the fuse to run the trails ever since the 4xE came out with no problems that I've seen.

Sprinter69

· #22 · 10 d ago

Blxe Stxel said:
I'd say running over someone is worse than a warranty issue. There's a reason for every warning out there.

If you are driving around in heavy pedestrian areas all day long with people walking around your vehicle, you'd be pretty dumb to disable the pedestrian noise. If you're running trails, I don't think there's much risk of a catastrophy happening because you're GC 4xE didn't sound like an angry locust on the trail.

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Blxe Stxel

· #23 · 10 d ago

Sprinter69 said:
If you are driving around in heavy pedestrian areas all day long with people walking around your vehicle, you'd be pretty dumb to disable the pedestrian noise. If you're running trails, I don't think there's much risk of a catastrophy happening because you're GC 4xE didn't sound like an angry locust on the trail.

You say that now lol...

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HereWeGoAgain

· #24 · 10 d ago

C.sco said:
Jeep should have, at the very least, given us a setting to disable the speakers when the transfer case is in 4-low. That god awful brake grinding noise ruins the whole "silent offroading" experience.

I highly doubt Jeep had that option, after all that would require the federal regulation to also have such a carve out.

As for the sound, well I do not find it great but I am also not offended by it and I rarely hear notice it in my daily life. Then again no PHEV/EV sound is really amazing, they are meant to stand out/get attention and are constrained by a bunch of audio standards I would need a different degree to understand.

Sprinter69

· #25 · 10 d ago

Blxe Stxel said:
You say that now lol...
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Yes bucket drownings are obviously a BIG problem. The largest problem is really the rise of the "Pedestrian Accident Attorney", example: Are Electric Vehicles Leading to More Pedestrian Accidents?

I didn't google it, but there are probably "Bucket Drowning Attorneys" also.

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Joemama

· #26 · 10 d ago

brnscofrnld said:
I've considered going the switch route and adding something to either the fuse or at least the speaker producing the sound for forward motion. It doesn't bug us during day to day, but we do have plans to hit some logging trails this summer where the sound would not be welcome.

What fuse is it again. It’s coming out today. That noise is trash and now that it’s warm I can’t stand hearing it with the windows down

brnscofrnld

· #27 · 10 d ago

Joemama said:
What fuse is it again. It’s coming out today. That noise is trash and now that it’s warm I can’t stand hearing it with the windows down

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Canyonmike

· #28 · 9 d ago

Paul92688 said:
I agree with a moving, potentially silent car making a noise to warn pedestrians. No problem. What I can't stand is the noise my JGC makes when doing this. The chosen noise sounds like brakes dragging or some mechanical failure.

Are you OK with the concept of a noisemaker?

Are you fond of the sound they chose?

Years ago I found a (probably fake) video of an electric car that made the Jetson's vehicle sound at low speed. The sound modified in rate as the car sped up and slowed down. In spite of being clownish, I would pick THAT over the dragging brake shoe sound we are stuck with.

Yeah, I hate it too. All EVs do it. Question: since we all know to get out of the way of a vehicle with an internal combustion engine, why didn’t the industry choose to make it sound like an internal combustion engine?

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brnscofrnld

· #29 · 9 d ago

Canyonmike said:
why didn’t the industry choose to make it sound like an internal combustion engine?

Becuase early EV adopters didn't want an ICE or the sounds so the industry attempted the more sci-fi sound... And failed in most cases.

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ttturner68

· #30 · 9 d ago

brnscofrnld said:
Becuase early EV adopters didn't want an ICE or the sounds so the industry attempted the more sci-fi sound... And failed in most cases.

Yeah any attempt gets absolutely brutally attacked.... see the new Charger.

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brnscofrnld

· #31 · 9 d ago

ttturner68 said:
Yeah any attempt gets absolutely brutally attacked.... see the new Charger.

This.

There will never be an EV sound that 100% of users will like... Make it sound like an ICE... Someone wants it to sound more like a hemi bored out rather than a stock 5.7. Most attempts would sound like a 4 cylinder with a glass pack.

hddman

· #32 · 9 d ago

My preference would be the ability to insert your own custom .mp3 file for the pedestrian warning sound. Star Wars Imperial March, JAWS theme, air electric diesel horn, "Put down your Phone and pay attention to traffic!" etc. LOL

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4xeFanFL

· #33 · 9 d ago

hddman said:
My preference would be the ability to insert your own custom .mp3 file for the pedestrian warning sound. Star Wars Imperial March, JAWS theme, air electric diesel horn, "Put down your Phone and pay attention to traffic!" etc. LOL

TheLast929

· #34 · 7 d ago

Paul92688 said:
I agree with a moving, potentially silent car making a noise to warn pedestrians. No problem. What I can't stand is the noise my JGC makes when doing this. The chosen noise sounds like brakes dragging or some mechanical failure. Are you OK with the concept of a noisemaker? Are you fond of the sound they chose? Years ago I found a (probably fake) video of an electric car that made the Jetson's vehicle sound at low speed. The sound modified in rate as the car sped up and slowed down. In spite of being clownish, I would pick THAT over the dragging brake shoe sound we are stuck with.

My understanding is that until recently, Tesla owners were able to modify the sound their vehicles made at low speeds to warn pedestrians. I was told that the feature is no longer available. I believe the current sound they make is kinda space ship sounding. Much more pleasant than my 4XE.

brnscofrnld

· #35 · 6 d ago (Edited)

Work in progess...

I was able to put together my little bypass switch this morning. I will be able to test it when I get home and install it. If all goes well, I will drill a hole in the panel door and install the switch. This will allow a simple rocker switch to turn the PWS on and off by just reaching into the rear and flipping it. Continuity was checked with a voltmeter and seems to work as intended.

Ignore the black vs red wiring. The quick connects I had access to were all this and I didn't want to re-pin the black wire. The whole thing is just one big extension to disconnect the fuse circuit.

The blue fuse you see in the slot is just a placeholder to test the switch and continuity. The fuse in the panel, I believe, is a ~~yellow~~ Red 10-amp fuse.

Worst case, even after the hole is drilled, I can pull everything out and get a knockout plug to fill the hole and replace the original fuse.

I will take a video and pictures once everything is in place.

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Chapomis

· #36 · 6 d ago

Yonatan said:
That is exactly the sound I want to replace my pedestrian warning for. Lol.

I couldn't figure it how to describe the Jeep's pedestrian warning sound until my friend said it sounded like a bunch of frogs.

Yup, peepers…..it actually took me a few times to realize that it wasn’t peepers (duh, it was march in Boston)but, it’s so much better than my wife’s rav4 in reverse

robrobsen

· #37 · 6 d ago

C.sco said:
The noise is awful. I disconnected and completely removed the two speakers from my Jeep, and just run the ICE whenever I'm driving slowly near people. Apparently if you pull the fuse, it'll trigger some internal error code (but without any dash indicators), I don't think there's any consequence to having that error code but just to be on the safe side I removed the speakers instead, which does not trigger the error code. At the very least, it'll prevent dealers from replacing the fuse to clear the code (and charging me for it, of course) every time I take it in for an oil change. They're very unlikely to notice or care if my speakers are missing.

Jeep should have, at the very least, given us a setting to disable the speakers when the transfer case is in 4-low. That god awful brake grinding noise ruins the whole "silent offroading" experience.

Why ? You don't like it.. close the windows and you will not hear it. Or as you mentioned run the ICE. It's a safety feature. 1st World problem it seems.

brnscofrnld

· #38 · 6 d ago

robrobsen said:
Why ? You don't like it.. close the windows and you will not hear it. Or as you mentioned run the ICE. It's a safety feature. 1st World problem it seems.

The only case where we want to disable it is off-road. We have a trip coming up where we have access to some fun logging trails heading to some hiking trailheads where being able to run with the windows down and the radio off is what we are planning to do. Not having the angry bees or sleigh bells humming along at slow speed will be nice.

Removing the speakers is going a bit far.

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robrobsen

· #39 · 6 d ago

brnscofrnld said:
The only case where we want to disable it is off-road. We have a trip coming up where we have access to some fun logging trails heading to some hiking trailheads where being able to run with the windows down and the radio off is what we are planning to do. Not having the angry bees or sleigh bells humming along at slow speed will be nice.

Removing the speakers is going a bit far.

That makes sense. So only solution then is to pull the fuse it seems ?

HardSell

· #40 · 6 d ago

robrobsen said:
1st World problem it seems.

The first world problem is the 70-80 Grand one pays for something not right.

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