One isn't shaped like a lifted brick.

 

That reminds me about ride quality, safe to say if that matters to you, Grand Cherokee 4xe it is.

 

It's also just part of the reality of why one gets a few more miles of range/better mpg with the same battery/drivetrain. The wrangler, love it or hate it, is not the most aerodynamic thing out there.

 

Better aero, a fixed roof, and independent suspension are the obvious big ones. I wonder how well it will sell compared to other cushy PHEV SUVs, unlike the Wrangler there are quite a few choices in that segment.

 

The volvo xc 90 recharge offers a third row and 35 miles full electric range for the same money. But the Jeeps capability and interior features are hard to pass up

 

Biggest difference, you can order and get a Wrangler 4xE, does anyone actually have a GC 4xE to compare it to the Wrangler yet? Even if they do magically appear this year, how many GCs will shut down on the highway, have check engine lights, etc for at least a year? GC 4xE is a flop for 22 as far as I’m concerned.

 

I believe the drivetrain is the same... So likely the wranglers are working out all the bugs for the GCs...

 

The differences… everything but the powertrain.

 

yeah...what he said.....lol....Probably one of the main differences besides aerodynamics.....are the axle ratios....the Grand Cherokee in the non 4Xe is 3:45 for the V6 and 3:09 for the V8 5.7 Hemi. I'm not sure what the JGC 4Xe will be. The Wranglers are 3:73 in most of the Wranglers and 4:11's (which won't help any when it comes to fuel mileage) in the Rubicon...I believe these are the same for the Wrangler 4Xe.

EDIT: Now having said that....Im not sure this means as much as it used to with the ZF 8 Speed transmission....just my two cents

 

In my opinion, the 4xe GC isn't as unique as the Wrangler 4xe. There are many PHEV suv's, and the GC doesn't appear to be anything special compared to the rest. But at the moment, there isn't a single other PHEV that is 4x4, doors off, several convertible top options, with an entire aftermarket customization market 2nd to none.

 

To each their own....I never really got into the Jeep wranglers...to me they were too small, used to much fuel ( for the size of them) and there just wasn't enough space in the drivers area (I'm 6'1" and around 245). For intents and purposes they really rode like a Jeep....pretty rough. The JGC 4Xe that I have ordered will be my 9th JGC. My first was a '95 Laredo V8 with the 318/5.2L that thing would go anywhere.....I was sold and became a believer.....I pushed snow over the hood in 3-4 feet of snow drifts while down over Hall's run Mountain in Snow Shoe, PA. As each generation progressed they have only become more capable. I have owned two diesels of them a 2008 with the Mercedes diesel and a 2014 (built in November 2013 one of the very first Ecodiesels off the line) with many other 5.7L Hemi and the 1999 with the 4.7L V8 and a '99 with the inline 6 cylinder...that thing was really torquey for all it was at 190HP. I guess I really liked the luxury of the interior and the most capable SUV at the time when each generation was produced. Quadra-Drive and Quadra Drive II with the air suspension....and now with a front sway-bar dis-connect....I see your point about the Wrangler's they have only been made better over the last 80 years....whereas the JGC has not even been around for 30 years yet and are a very, very capable SUV.....the only thing that I don't like is as each generation is produced they are getting larger....almost too large to take off road in some tight narrow trails......and sadly the 2022 is much larger than my current 2020......they each have their own uniqueness about them....the Wrangler may be more unique...but I would rather have the JGC...as its a better fit for me and my situation....Just my opinion and experience

 

 

Wow, that's a great looking vehicle, definitely my 2nd choice. It's certainly the most capable vehicle in it's class, and superior to the Jeep Wrangler in numerous ways.

I couldn't see in the video, does it come with one of these bumper stickers?

 

The JGC is just a mid-sized PHEV SUV. If that’s what you want, there are probably half a dozen SUVs out there you should take for a test drive.

 

@Naylia no other SUV in its class is even close to the JGC....with on or off road capability (with Quadra-drive II)....if you believe the JGC is just another SUV....I think you need to go drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I'm basing that of 30 years of being stationed all over the world....and driving around people who were stuck in the snow, mud, ice, rain, etc... I'm talking about a very, very capable SUV that just happens to be a PHEV in 2022. They just keep making it better.... I guess we're all entitled to our own opinion.

 

I could care less about whether the JGC is amazing or not. A Wrangler PHEV is a truly unique vehicle. You can’t go out and shop it around. There’s nothing else to drive or even look at.

I’m just saying that in it’s general class there are options depending on what people need from a car. Plenty of people drive GCs that never see dirt, snow, or anything. Hell, plenty of Wranglers never make it out of 2WD where I live. With a GC, you can compare the options that matter to you and shop it against other cars. That’s not a bad thing for someone to do.

 

What we need is a 392 Hemi 4xe Wrangler, and a GC TrackHawk 4xe.

 

Sadly they still put the Wrangler PHEV in the same class as other PHEV SUV's....I agree, its not a bad thing test driving other SUVs....and as I said in post 11 the Wrangler is more unique and as the Jeep commercial used to say...."We wrote the book on 4WD" and that's CJ3, CJ5 based of the what is now called the Wrangler. If I couldn't have ordered the PHEV in a Trailhawk I probably wouldn't have spent the extra money to get an PHEV Overland with Off road package/ELSD. I would have ordered the Trailhawk with a V6. I use the vehicle on and off road.....maybe not as much as some off road.

I have run on to some very crazy/hairy on road conditions, that I don't think I would have wanted any other SUV....with good tires I have driven around going up a snow covered unplowed snowy hill, other Tractor trailers, trucks, cars and SUVs in ditches/median putting on there tire chains on the side of the road.....I just kept driving, if I would have stopped to help I would have got hit by others sliding into the median/ditch. Another example while in PA on a hunting trip...I wouldn't have taken any other SUV where I took my 2014 JGC Ecodiesel in off road situation, it was very rocky, snowy, frozen creek bed that was the rocky road...and the road was called rattlesnake....my dad was just shaking his head in disbelief and said most people don't make it (due to rocks) driving down over this trail/road in the summer time and here we are going up it in the winter with ice and 6-8" of snow (with stock tires Limited with off Road group II). I would take a stock JGC Trailhawk anywhere anyone would take their stock 4 door Wrangler. Call me crazy I think the JGC is just as capable as the 4 door Rubicon.

 

I would take a stock JGC Trailhawk anywhere anyone would take their stock 4 door Wrangler. Call me crazy I think the JGC is just as capable as the 4 door Rubicon.

I took a 2005 Mazda Tribute places Mazda never dreamed it would go. After I destroyed it, I got an 08 Rubicon. Man, that CG 4xe has some awesome tech in it! Makes me wish I wasn't so hooked on taking the doors off/roof back, because I would be sold.

 

The Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe comes with the same 17 kWh battery as the Wrangler 4xe.

They also share the same 2.0-liter turbocharged, four-cylinder engine. But the EPA documents show the Grand Cherokee 4xe gets a combined range of 26 miles, that's 5 more than the Wrangler 4xe.

That's a good amount more and it has me wondering what else separates the two.

Is there anything else you have noticed?

Main difference has to be you’re not walking to your car every single time excited to drive with a GC. As a previous owner of 3 GCs (2012 Overland being all time favorite) and now 2 Wranglers, the 4xe is in a class of its own

 

4xe isn't really in a class of it's own when it comes to comparing to a Grand Cherokee 4xe. Especially the TH model, better riding, more range, more flexible 4x4 system (rear elsd that works like a locker and can be used in 4 high)
I'd take a 4xe Grand Cherokee any day because it can tow much more than the wrangler and that's why I still have my Grand Cherokee is for towing and longer trips. It rides so much nicer and is far more comfortable, but I could still go offroad if I need to.

 

The Wrangler and GC aren't in the same class. The Wrangler is a compact, convertible SUV with removable doors. The GC is a midsize SUV (with an available V8). While both have their benefits they're still very much different classes. The only other vehicle that can be compared to a Wrangler is a bronco... And since no hybrid the Wrangler really is in a class of it's own. But I'm with you i also like the GC; have had two and just bought a long wheel base for the wife a few months ago.

4xe isn't really in a class of it's own when it comes to comparing to a Grand Cherokee 4xe. Especially the TH model, better riding, more range, more flexible 4x4 system (rear elsd that works like a locker and can be used in 4 high)
I'd take a 4xe Grand Cherokee any day because it can tow much more than the wrangler and that's why I still have my Grand Cherokee is for towing and longer trips. It rides so much nicer and is far more comfortable, but I could still go offroad if I need to.

 

I was speaking from a 4xe standpoint, other than electric they are very different each has their strength and weakness, but my Grand Cherokee is better set to offroad out of the box vs my Sahara High Altitude but I didn't buy the wrangler for offroading either

 

Gotcha!

 

I read somewhere that people interested in a Wrangler are often considering getting a boat instead. I get that because the Wrangler and GC are both 4xe's, it would seem on the surface a logical thing to compare the two. But if anything is made clear by this thread, other than the 4xe powertrains, the Wrangler and Grand Cherokee are wildly different vehicles with huge trim option differences, frankly beyond comparison.

 

I’ve seen a few points discussing owning Grand Cherokee’s versus the Wrangler 4xe. I own a 2013 GC Overland - saddle brown leather interior, all the features, only 82K miles. It’s been great. Of course for months and months I’ve wanted a Wrangler and after test driving a couple 4xE’s in recent weeks and doing more and more research, living here in Indianapolis with a short daily commute, I’m pretty sure this is the route I want to go with resale still high for my GC, tax credits for the 4xe + a Chrysler family discount I can use. But, I’m still kind of stuck on how nice my 2013 GC Overland is. For someone who has gotten more used to the luxury and quieter feel of the GC, what else should I consider as I think about the Wrangler 4xe? I‘m looking at the High Altitude and would plan to add a bit larger A/T tire and maybe a few other things, but know it’s a Wrangler and wouldn’t feel like a GC. Just kind of torn! Unless I should stop thinking about it!

 

Maybe an unpopular opinion here but I moved from a BMW PHEV- the problem for me is commitment and wandering eyes. There are so many options. In my Wrangler 4xe, I don't compare it to every other car. The only true competitor is a Bronco and PHEV isn't an option...plus I, personally, hate the interior. I'm also not one who sees Jeep as a "luxury brand," yet. The dealership experience is too subpar- great folks but I have to pay for anything besides water out of a cooler plus no big screen tv and leather club chairs....GC 4xe is awesome looking and, more practical but my Wrangler keeps me engaged and loyal.

 

4xe's & Pacifica Hybrid are overpiced/overweight pigs with pathetic electric range...built strictly to lower Corporate Average Fuel Economy. Get on the Stellantis PHEV bandwagon if it makes ya feel good...waste your cash on obsolete technology.

 

with pathetic electric range...

Their range is fairly standard among comparable vehicles. Not the worst, not the best.

They aren't particularly good ranges if you're using a rav 4 prime as your comparison point, but that's not a comparable vehicle.

 

This is my biggest reasoning for the GC 4xe over the Wrangler 4xe, while im here feeding the trolls I might as well answer the threads question. I need to tow my boats and trailers and the Wranglers towing capacity just doesnt do it for me!

 

When cruising at 125 mph on a German highway on the legs where there are no speed limits, the aero ride makes a lot of sense regarding vehicle stability ....

 

The quadralift air suspension on WK2s was not designed for high speed stability......it was kind of the opposite, floated like a cloud and handling and high speeds sucked, because of all the body roll. The ride comfort was amazing but it did not inspire confidence at high speeds, that was never it's purpose

 

Maybe our EU models have a different suspension tuning, but I have never found any body roll or instability at high speed .... contrary to my past and actual Wrangler's ...

 

Can't compare a Wrangler to a Grand Cherokee, unibody independent suspension vs solid axle,

 

Hi All, am new to this forum but thought I joint since we signed our papers to buy a GC 4xe overland last weekend and pick it up tomorrow. I am a long time EV owner and have also owned several hybrids. Really like what Jeep has done with their PHEVs and think they stand out from the pack when compared to BMW and Volvo who make somewhat comparable vehicles to the GC. In theory their is a Range Rover PHEV but that is 50% more expensive and appears to have been discontinued right after launch. Reading through this thread I did want to address a couple points, while the Wrangler in general is different from other SUVs and more so with its 4XE offering my understanding is that this may be short lived as Ford is doing some electrification of the Bronco in the near future. That said the Wrangler 4XE is great. The GC 4XE is pretty different from the other electrified SUVs on the market which is one of the reasons we bought it. The tech package, features and functionality in the GC 4XE really stand out and there are only about three other PHEV SUVs that even remotely compare to it, but all are much much more expensive and not nearly as functional.

On the fully electrified SUV side most SUVs are much smaller with the exception being the Model X (which I own) and the Rivian (which is impossible to buy). My challenge with the Model X is that it is a little to fancy which limits its functionality as an SUV (i.e. no roof rack, and limited tongue weight allowed on the trailer hitch). So Model X is great as long as you do not need to do anything really SUV like with it lol. Have a friend with the new Rivian SUV and it is pretty fantastic and definitely the future. Unfortunately the wait for those is likely two years and in winter or when fully loaded it will have reduced range. You also pay a big premium for both of these EVs.

So not only is the GC 4XE a great car, because it was delayed in market for so long, many dealerships have had their original customers cancel their orders and there is suddenly lots of inventory. More importantly Jeep is giving customer cash to accelerate sales. Our dealership sold us ours at MSRP but we had an additional $4K in customer cash that Jeep sent us so actually got it for $4K below MSRP plus we also get a $7500 tax credit which brings our cost to over $11K below MSRP. Add to that top $$ on our trade in and suddenly the GC4XE became an incredibly affordable choice for us, much more so than what it would have cost to buy a comparable ICE version of the GC. I think as we move towards the end of the year and interest rates continue to go up you will find even better deals on these as my sense is that their late arrival is going to create an end o year glut in dealership inventories. So if you were thinking about buying one now may be the time to do so since inventories are there along with incentives and tax rebates (FYI the tax rebate goes away for good at the end of December).

 

FYI the tax rebate goes away for good at the end of December

As we currently know it, goes away. Then there is a new incentive taking its place.

 

The challenge with the new incentives is that there are a lot of limits both in terms of vehicle price and personal income, so not clear how much if any rebate will be available for 4XEs especially if you are buying a more expensive one of have an income about $150K. Current incentive does not have those limits and for us we would not qualify under the new requirements so was important that we buy now vs. next year.

 

As I said... It goes away as we know it, but there is still something coming in its place.