[michail]

With no alternator on board, do you need to charge to keep the 12 volt battery charged? In Hybrid mode, is the electric battery depleted in 25 miles or so? Thanks!

There is a DC to DC converter that replaces the alternator. Someone just hooked up and inverter and powered his house the 4xe. The DC/DC converter kept the battery within proper voltage the whole time. It just required a hack to not auto power down.

Yes, Hybrid mode functions primarily electric mode until it hits it's reserves. I'm not sure about on the highway. People seem to be reporting longer ranges than electric + hybrid only would provide. Hybrid is always hybrid since the reserve portion of the battery charges at a greater efficiency. Even at slow speeds it will still run electric only once full e-range is gone.

 

[JeepNerd]

There is a DC to DC converter that replaces the alternator. Someone just hooked up and inverter and powered his house the 4xe. The DC/DC converter kept the battery within proper voltage the whole time. It just required a hack to not auto power down.

Yes, Hybrid mode functions primarily electric mode until it hits it's reserves. I'm not sure about on the highway. People seem to be reporting longer ranges than electric + hybrid only would provide. Hybrid is always hybrid since the reserve portion of the battery charges at a greater efficiency. Even at slow speeds it will still run electric only once full e-range is gone.

do you have a link to any more info on hack to keep from powering down? Would be awesome to use an inverter for camping without power worries.

 

[Nathan]

Like most EV/PHEV vehicles, there's a DC-DC converter that steps down the voltage from the big battery to charge the 12V one anytime the car is on. Same as in a Tesla, or Prius, etc.

 

[PLM]

do you have a link to any more info on hack to keep from powering down? Would be awesome to use an inverter for camping without power worries.

You just have to unplug the wiring from the door, like you would do if you were taking them off.

 

[JeepNerd]

You just have to unplug the wiring from the door, like you would do if you were taking them off.

Interesting! So the method would be to hook up an inverter to the 12V system, close the hood, then leave it in run in electric mode with the door wiring disconnected? Leave it in run mode or acc mode? Does it matter which door?

Thanks!

 

[PLM]

Interesting! So the method would be to hook up an inverter to the 12V system, close the hood, then leave it in run in electric mode with the door wiring disconnected? Leave it in run mode or acc mode? Does it matter which door?

Thanks!

This guy showed how to do it. It'll answer your questions way better than I can

 

[Menchette]

I have a 25mi round trip commute and I've been charging every night thinking that I'm saving money (and because running on electric is fun). I live in an apartment complex that has 8 charging spots, but the cost for charging is 20c/kwh. If I estimate that around $3.40 per charge, and the distance as about the same as a gallon of gas will get me (I'm at about 22-23mpg), then I'm losing about 50 cents every time I charge instead of just running it on gas. Is there a point to me charging and using the plug-in at all at this point other than for fun? I mean I'll probably keep doing it anyway, but this was a sad realization.

Go onto your electric supplier site and find the option to change over to a different supplier. Example: I was paying .25 cents/kWh with Eversource in CT on my residential electric bill. I found a .10/kWh rate by Switching suppliers which really makes a difference (17 x .10 = $1.70 total to charge my 4xe)

 

[rplsbrian]

The 4xe is fast, has lots of torque and power and is fun to drive. It is a vehicle that satisfies different emotional needs. If your primary purchasing decision is economical transportation, the cheapest transportation is a small gas engine barebones Honda, Kia or Toyota with automatic and air - not a $45k 4xe. It would take you six to seven years in gas savings to makeup the price difference for even the cheapest PHEV or EV.

I wish my $70K Rubicon 4Xe was $45k But yes I love how my 4Xe has the same torque as my 2023 C-8! I also love driving to work and home each day without using any gas in my Jeep! I have noticed my electric bill go up about $100 a month but I was spending $45 a week in gas before in my 2010- 2 Door-Jeep Wrangler. So I feel like I am still saving enough to make the Jeep payments anyway.

 

[jamesndungu]

Consider using apps like PlugShare and ChargePoint to explore alternative charging stations that may offer more affordable rates.

 

[slowdave1]

@BHawk New to all of this, I do not mean any disrespect I am just trying to learn what makes the most sense for my situation. Why is e-save charging not advisable? My apologies, I am just not educated about all of this. I do put a priority on using battery more than fuel given most of my commuting is under 21 miles. I do not have access to a level 2 unless i drop off and pick up later. (trying to add a level 2 at home if/when amazon decides to ship what they have listed as “in stock”)

E-save means "save my battery for later." If you leave it on that forever, you should use VERY LITTLE battery power, so no need to charge it, and no purpose in purchasing the hybrid.

In hybrid mode, it will manage the battery charging. This will allow battery assist for accels, regenerative braking (which may or may not be available in e-save mode, I'm not sure),as well as creeping in traffic or drive throughs in electric mode and then re-charging from the engine as needed. It's just using the hybrid advantages of the powertrain without charging, as though you had a regular hybrid. If you drive in e-save all the time, you should have just bought the gasoline version and saved the money that you paid for your unused hybrid system.

 

[Clutch Auto Deals]

This will allow battery assist for accels, regenerative braking

These are both done in esave. There is very little difference in behavior between esave save on hybrid when the battery is at <1%. Both cases will use battery assist to accelerate, charge via regen, and generally won't take action to significantly increase the battery state of charge.