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If a .005% risk over multiple years is enough to keep you from driving, normal accident statistics should keep you from ever driving.

Also, note that the fires in question occurred while charging, not driving. If you're concerned, the recommend risk mitigation is to not charge.
100% Agreed! This is my only vehicle, so no choice not to drive it. I don't have a garage so it is parked away from the house and I rarely charge it anyway - relying on the 'self-charging" I get using the MaxRegen. No problems thus far. Had it into the dealership last Friday (Oct 18) for oil change and there is no fix for the recall yet. They said nothing about not driving it.
 
As far as I am concerned a recall is better than not taking care of the issue. Every vehicle in its lifetime will incur a safety recall. My BIGGEST issue is with Stellantis. They have a history of producing garbage cars! I would NEVER consider any Jeep other than a Wrangler.
 
After a chat we had with the Stellantis rep, they set up a rental car through Enterprise for 30 days. We have to pay for the rental, then Stellantis will reimburse us when we send them the rental agreement and receipts. Let us hope they can find a fix faster than 30 days.
How long did you get to a Stellantis rep? Everyone must be calling in. My wife said she spent 30min on hold. To be told that they had to transfer her to a different department. Then it got disconnected. Now another 15min to try again.
 
My hunch is Stellantis is working with Samsung to make sure they have a huge amount of batteries on hand. Then they will release the software update. No way an update should take this long knowing that the clowns at Stellantis have known about this issue for months now! Why the hell did Jeep allow themselves to be bought out by a company that has only produced autos that are HORRIBLE?!!
 
My hunch is Stellantis is working with Samsung to make sure they have a huge amount of batteries on hand. Then they will release the software update. No way an update should take this long knowing that the clowns at Stellantis have known about this issue for months now! Why the hell did Jeep allow themselves to be bought out by a company that has only produced autos that are HORRIBLE?!!
Which time/company?

Stellantis, who bought Fiat?
Fiat who bought Chrysler from Cerberus?
Cerberus who bought Chrysler from Daimler?
Daimler who bought Chrysler?
Chrysler who bought AMC?
AMC who bought Jeep from Kaiser?
Kaiser who bought Willys/Jeep?
 
As far as I am concerned a recall is better than not taking care of the issue. Every vehicle in its lifetime will incur a safety recall. My BIGGEST issue is with Stellantis. They have a history of producing garbage cars! I would NEVER consider any Jeep other than a Wrangler.
Would you mind expanding on the "history of producing garbage cars" please. As many facts as you can muster pleas?
 
I just reached out to Chrysler Financial on lease end options due to this recall
Chrysler financial is an independent bank with no tie to Chrysler other than licensing their name.
 
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How long did you get to a Stellantis rep? Everyone must be calling in. My wife said she spent 30min on hold. To be told that they had to transfer her to a different department. Then it got disconnected. Now another 15min to try again.
The first two calls were 10 minute wait times; so I chose the call back option; this was an easier option. They did call back within 20 minutes. The latest calls have over 30-minute wait times. Choosing the call back option results in a loss of the call then no call back. I'm going to trying to call in the evening, EST.
 
I just reached out to Chrysler Financial on lease end options due to this recall and they're telling me they can't help that it's a local dealer issue even though it's a national safety recall with no fix.
Same situation, trying to get out of a lease given the current state of affairs. '23 Wrangler 4xe. Don't bother going to the dealer, I tried that this week and they said they couldn't/wouldn't help me either, unless I wanted to lease another new Jeep... yeah.

I did call Chrysler corporate (877-426-5337) and got a case number at least, they said on Monday that the recall department should call me back within 2 days. After 3 days I called them again, this time they said the recall department would call me eventually, but they didn't have a timeline, and wouldn't give me a phone number for that department.
 
If Jeep has to reabsorb all the leases due to this recall, it'll probably bankrupt the company. Plus, I don't think that's a reasonable thing to ask a company to do. To buy back all the new cars and leases just due to this recall.

This is really not a MAJOR problem. Chances if catching fire is probably slightly higher than winning the lotto.

I'm parking my car outside, but I still use it as intended. If it really burns down, my insurance will help me end the lease. :p

Of course I hope Jeep will come up with a resolution quick... otherwise Jeep will still go under sooner or later...
 
Same situation, trying to get out of a lease given the current state of affairs. '23 Wrangler 4xe. Don't bother going to the dealer, I tried that this week and they said they couldn't/wouldn't help me either, unless I wanted to lease another new Jeep... yeah.
Things would have to be a lot more severe for Chrysler to even consider letting people out of their leases over this.
 
Things would have to be a lot more severe for Chrysler to even consider letting people out of their leases over this.
Yeah, if a problem that caused my Jeep to become just a brick on my driveway and I can't even drive it, naturally I'm not going to continue making the monthly lease payment on that!

Battery issue is really not that big of a deal. These manufacturers just realized some issues that should've been better than they are, but to be fair, I don't see this as a deal breaker for me.

Similarly I understand people now are probably afraid to fly Boeing planes, especially Max, but honestly chances of me dying in a Boeing plane is still very very remote! Even when the door panel blew out, that didn't really kill anybody, right? ;)

Anyway, they should've done better yes, but let's not worry ourselves to death. If it's really that serious of a problem, we should see more fires in the news. Last I heard they had 13 fires? Out of about 200,000 4xes? The odds of winning is pretty slim..., I wouldn't even waste money buying a lotto ticket with such odds.
 
Seems like some of you are really knowledgeable and since I can't get through to my service rep or FCA, I'll get some random internet opinions. I have a 22' Wrangler 4xe and back in late August the battery bit the dust. Wouldn't charge and the entire propulsion system was trashed. It drove like it was missing 20 of the 4 cylinders in gas mode.

We were not a part of the B9A recall. Dealer called in the STAR team and they ordered a full battery replacement. The new battery was ordered in early September and installed a few weeks later. Everything is running great now.

So with a month old battery that was ordered from the supplier in September, surely we are in the clear here right? This recall had to be in the works months ago and even Stellantis isn't so dumb as to ship and install a battery that will need to be replaced again potentially a month before the recall roles out... Or are they?
 
So with a month old battery that was ordered from the supplier in September, surely we are in the clear here right? This recall had to be in the works months ago and even Stellantis isn't so dumb as to ship and install a battery that will need to be replaced again potentially a month before the recall roles out... Or are they?
There's no telling, without comparing specific id numbers between the affected batches and your Jeep; Stellantis has that info, and you don't. :)

They know all the affected battery batch numbers, and they know the batch numbers for your replacement battery. They're responsible for matching those records correctly, since no one else can.

So if you get a recall notice, you should probably not ignore it.
 
There is the 96B recall which is the same as 95B, except it applies to effected battery packs in dealers' inventory. So, if youre getting a new battery, it shouldn't be one that has a known issue. You still will likely need the updated software, so the recall may still apply, but the separator failure risk should be pretty much nonexistent.
 
Yeah, if a problem that caused my Jeep to become just a brick on my driveway and I can't even drive it, naturally I'm not going to continue making the monthly lease payment on that!

Battery issue is really not that big of a deal. These manufacturers just realized some issues that should've been better than they are, but to be fair, I don't see this as a deal breaker for me.

Similarly I understand people now are probably afraid to fly Boeing planes, especially Max, but honestly chances of me dying in a Boeing plane is still very very remote! Even when the door panel blew out, that didn't really kill anybody, right? ;)

Anyway, they should've done better yes, but let's not worry ourselves to death. If it's really that serious of a problem, we should see more fires in the news. Last I heard they had 13 fires? Out of about 200,000 4xes? The odds of winning is pretty slim..., I wouldn't even waste money buying a lotto ticket with such odds.
So your gas engine on your Jeep stopped working ? How is it becoming a brick ?
 
Jeep has announced another recall of its PHEV vehicles, the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Wrangler model years 2022-2024. Multiple news outlets have published the information, even though Stellantis hasn't notified the owners. It is a serious fire hazard risk, so serious, Jeep is advising owners, to quote NHTSA, "Owners should park their vehicles outside and away from structures and other vehicles until their vehicle has been remedied. In addition, owners should not charge unrepaired vehicles, because the risk of fire is higher in a charged battery and the risk of fire is reduced when the battery is depleted." Details can be found at by searching the NHTSA information for NHTSA campaign numbers: 24V-720 and 24E-080. The link is: Jeep Wrangler, Grand Cherokee Recall for Fire Risk | NHTSA
It is time for a bit of a rant. Yes, PHEV's and BHEV's are in their development infancy but many recalls of the Grand Cherokee 4xe in these past years are just sloppy design, workmanship, etc. I've owned Jeeps, starting with a Cherokee, for 35 years and have never experienced such troubles as these new Jeeps are cursed with. I added up all the troubles of manufacturing defects/recalls of my old Cherokee, Grand Cherokees and they were less than the new Grand Cherokee 4xe. The first Grand Cherokee 4xe was re-purchased after an oil leak in the transmission housing due to porosity. The dealership has been great with all the recall issues, and Stellantis promised to transfer the Max warranty from the re-purchased vehicle to the new model. They refused to transfer the warranty once we received the new Grand Cherokee 4xe. Stellantis moved its customer service offshore and is not nearly as effective as the onshore group. Jeep, via Stellantis, is rapidly re-defining itself as the producer of unsafe, unreliable Jeeps, with horrid customer service outside the dealerships, despite them trying to move up-market in the SUV market with the Wagoneers. The Mopar website that allows you to search for recalls via the VIN is not functional, looping you back to the database query page when you type in your VIN number. I used the NHTSA site, via VIN, to search for the recall information, which appears to not have been published for any particular vehicles. These aren't just simple recalls; these are recalls than can cause accidents (NHTSA 24V-132; pinch bolt recall) and a fire hazard which can destroy the vehicle and anything that might be parked nearby. The request, "Owners should park their vehicles outside and away from structures and other vehicles" is absurd for most, unless you live an area in the desert that has no combustibles nearby. The pinch bolt recall was nearly as an absurd a request, noting you could lose control of the vehicle while driving. Essentially, owners of these vehicles have an undrivable, shiny, scrap heap. Hey, @JeepCares! First, Jeep should fix the website so that owners can search for recalls. We used three different computers with two different operating systems and 4 different browsers to access the recall data on the Mopar site; none of them worked. Second, given the possible risk to property and human life, maybe a notice on the app would save someone's life or property, until the full recall information is defined. Third, maybe Stellantis should build storage yards with no combustible material nearby for the owners to store their vehicles and pay for the rental of a like vehicle.
Yes I've finally thrown in the towel on Jeeps for now. I purchased my first Jeep in 1997 a Jeep Wrangler. Since then I've owned 5 Grand Cherokee's including the last one a 2022 Grand Cherokee 4xe Summit. My son an daughter have also owned, Patriots, Compass and Cherokees. up until the GC 4xe that all have been flawless. Maybe I made the mistake of buying something new to the market. I ordered this GC 4xe as soon as the buying window opened in early January of 2022. That was my first mistake as I was told it would take until April or May to receive the Jeep. Well that stretched out to 11 months and we didn't get it till December of 2022. Within a short time , recalls began happening including a warranty issue of a voltage reduction module that failed and stranded us until road service could arrive and get us started. That fix took 6 weeks of the jeep sitting at the dealer waiting for the part. Then the recall for the bolt in the steering which could fail. Then having the driver assist fail which required a new steering wheel that had to be ordered.
The straw that finally broke the camels back is the latest recall of the Jeep being a fire hazard with no immediate fix in site. Call me crazy, but that did it. the vehicle has been traded in for a new Ford Expedition. I'm done with the hybrids until all the bugs are worked out of them. I've had on before and now have one again
 
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